Getting Back Up Podcast: Finding Life After Death
Two fathers. Two stories of loss. One mission to get back up.
Real conversations with two men learning to navigate life, raise children, and find love again…after loss.
Hosted by Jamal Jones and David McClain, Getting Back Up: Life after Death is a real, raw, and often humorous podcast about what comes after the unthinkable—losing a partner, facing grief, and finding your way through it. As two widowers, now devoted girl dads (and one remarried man), Jamal and David create space for honest conversations around healing, identity, and starting over.
Getting knocked down is part of life. Getting back up is how we live.
Episodes
40 episodes
35: In-Laws or Out-Laws? — Dealing with Their Family After You Move On
Episode 35: In-Laws or Out-Laws? — Dealing with Their Family After You Move OnMoving forward after loss isn’t just about you—it can shift every relationship connected to your past. In this episode, Jamal and David tackle one of the most ...
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Episode 35
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34: Bitter Sweet Sixteens - Navigating Fatherhood Through Milestones
Episode 34: Bitter Sweet Sixteens — Navigating Fatherhood Through MilestonesTurning sixteen is supposed to be a celebration — a moment where parents look at their daughters and realize childhood is slowly giving way to adulthood. B...
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Episode 34
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50:40
33: Am I Depressed… or Am I Grieving?
Episode 33: Am I Depressed… or Am I Grieving?In this episode, Jamal and David take on a question many widowers wrestle with quietly: Am I depressed… or am I grieving? It’s a question that usually shows up late at night, in the q...
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Episode 33
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32: Telling the Story With Heart — A Conversation with Dr. Nicole Clark
Episode 32: Telling the Story With Heart — A Conversation with Dr. Nicole Clark In this episode, Jamal and David sit down with Dr. Nicole Clark, Emmy award-winning anchor and reporter for Spectrum News Texas — but befo...
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Episode 32
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31: Grief Beyond Death — A Conversation with Jocelyn Barrera of The Christi Center
Episode 31: Grief Beyond Death — A Conversation with Jocelyn Barrera of The Christi CenterIn this on-location episode in Austin, Jamal and David sit down with Jocelyn Barrera, Executive and Clinical Director of The Christi Center,...
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Episode 31
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30: “If Only I Had…” — Living With the Loop of Regret (Part 2)
Episode 30: “If Only I Had…” — Living With the Loop of Regret (Part 2)In Part 2 of our conversation on regret, Jamal and David move from awareness to release. Many widowers quietly believe that suffering proves love — that carryin...
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Episode 30
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29: “If Only I Had…” — Living With the Loop of Regret (Part 1)
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 29: “If Only I Had…” — Living With the Loop of Regret (Part 1)In Part 1 of this raw and reflective conversation, Jamal and David open up about one of...
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Episode 29
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45:50
28: What Must Be Carried (Pt. 2 ) w/ Whitney Lyn Allen
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 28: What Must Be Carried (Pt. 2 ) w/ Whitney Lyn AllenIn this second half of our conversation with grief coach and author Whitney Lyn Allen, w...
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Episode 28
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1:00:08
27: What Must Be Carried (Pt. 1 ) w/ Whitney Lyn Allen
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 27: What Must Be Carried (Pt. 1 ) w/ Whitney Lyn AllenIn this deeply personal conversation, we sit down with Whitney Lyn Allen—grief coach, at...
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Episode 27
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59:24
26: The Cost of the Craft with Russell Hornsby (Part 2)
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 26: The Cost of the Craft with Russell HornsbyIn Part 2 of our powerful conversation with actor Russell Hornsby, we move from personal loss to...
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Episode 26
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1:20:08
25: Black Men, Cancer, and the Fight for Our Lives @ Clark Atlanta University
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 25: Black Men, Cancer, and the Fight for Our LivesIn this special episode, Jamal and David head to Clark Atlanta University to sit down with research...
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Episode 25
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47:03
24: A New Year. A New You.
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 24: A New Year. A New You.It’s 2026—and for those of us navigating life after loss, the new year can feel less like a reset and more like a reckoning...
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Episode 24
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23: When the Job Is Gone, Who Are You? with Degion Craddock
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 23: When the Job Is Gone, Who Are You? with Degion CraddockIn this episode, Jamal and David sit down with marketing pro and former Dell colleague Degion Cr...
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Episode 23
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58:32
22: For the People - A Conversation with our Community
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 22: For the People - A Conversation with our CommunityIn this episode, Jamal and Dave step back from the mic to reflect on the journey so far—and to ...
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Episode 22
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21: A Son’s Reflection on Love, Loss, and Legacy with Russell Hornsby (Part 1)
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 21: A Son’s Reflection on Love, Loss, & Legacy with Russell Hornsby (Part 1) In this deeply personal conversation, Jamal and David sit down ...
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Episode 21
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A Thanksgiving Break
Going into Thanksgiving and somewhat taking a break. We are thankful to our fans and listeners and grateful for this community. Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death is a podcast that explores the raw, ...
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20. Children and Grief with Kelly Medvin (LPC)
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 20: Children and Grief with Kelly Medvin (LPC)In this episode, Jamal and Dave sit down with Kelly Medvin, a licensed professional counselor from New ...
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Episode 20
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53:29
19: Life After Loss w/ Melody Rollins Downes (Part 2)
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 19: Life After Loss w/ Melody Rollins Downes (Part 2)In Part 2 of thier powerful conversation, Melody opens up about the final chapter of her husband...
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Episode 19
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46:58
18: Life After Loss w/ Melody Rollins Downes (Part 1)
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 18: Life After Loss w/ Melody Rollins Downes (Part 1)In this episode, Jamal and David sit down with Melody Rollins Downes, a close friend, mother, an...
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Episode 18
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17: The Holidays After Loss
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 17: The Holidays After LossFor anyone grieving, the holiday season doesn’t just bring lights and cheer—it brings shadows, silence, and reminders of w...
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Episode 17
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42:33
16.5: Time Out - Still Getting Back Up
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 16.5: Time Out - Still Getting Back UpTen episodes later, we’ve gone from the first morning alone to parenting through pain, rediscovering purpose, a...
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32:50
16. New Love on the Horizon
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 16: New Love On the HorizonFalling in love again after loss is layered. In this episode, Jamal and Dave reflect on what it means to move forward whil...
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Episode 16
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55:07
15. The DadMom - Taking Over the Solos
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 15: The DadMom - Taking Over the SolosBeing a solo parent after loss isn’t just about logistics—it’s about stepping into the spotlight when the lead...
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Episode 15
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33:58
14. Dating again: What we learned. What you should know.
Getting Back Up: Finding Life After Death (Season 1)Episode 14: Dating again: What we learned. What you should know.Dating after loss is a different kind of game—and the playbook isn’t exactly handed to you. You’ve changed...
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Episode 14
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20:50